Student: I’ve seen that there’s in
some way a false equivalency. You’re talking about this notion of,
“You work, I eat.” But in the former scenario of the slave, that’s depriving someone
of social mobility by basically taking all their labor for the benefit of someone
else, whereas in the latter scenario, I assume you’re referring to various
welfare programs, taxes, etc. D’Souza: So take the first one. You’re
talking about the fact that, in slavery, you’re saying, there’s an open ripoff.
One guy stealing from another, taking his hard-earned labor.
And where’s the analogy with the welfare state in which people are
begin given certain guarantees? The analogy is like this: in the plantation,
the slaveowner, who is the master, is using force to compel another guy
to work against his will and taking fruit of his earnings. We should never
forget that in a democratic society, the majority is in exactly the same
position. In other words, in a democratic society… Imagine if there are 100
people in a room, in this room, and we take a vote, and let’s say our
vote is this: here’s a hard working guy, and our vote is 95 to one to
take his savings and distribute it among all of us. First of all, politically, that’s
very attractive, because a lot more people will benefit. The only guy
we’re penalizing is one guy. So this was the FDR-LBJ model.
The FDR-LBJ model was like this: the Democratic Party has to get to
a majority in order to perform the ripoff. To get to a majority we need votes,
so let’s get these ethnic constituents… Notice that, by the way, the Democrats
never try to persuade these ethnic groups individually. The don’t go black guy by
black guy and say, “Vote Democratic.” The whole idea is to get them all to do it.
“Let’s get them as a group.” And the effect is exactly the same.
You’ve got some other guy who doesn’t want to pay. That’s the key thing.
He wouldn’t give voluntarily. That’s why you have to tax him, that’s why
you’ve got to extract the money out of him by force, because he’s not willing to
part with it. It’s his own earnings. He’s going to try to hold
onto it. You have to take it. So even though the force in our society
is disguised, it’s there. It’s real.